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  1. Duster

    Duster 12 pointer

    Flipping thru channels a couple days ago I ran across a couple doing a Elk hunt out west. Gal is up first and has a mature 5x6 bull at 320 yards across a valley. Put a shot right behind the shoulder for a double lung hit and guide says hit him again. No need to as Elk started to stumble and go down. Before she could even rack in another round it was down for the count. What amaze me was she was shooting a 25-06 with a 110 grain bullet. Even at that range it still had enough going for it to take down a large animal such as that Elk. I know the 25-06 will jerk the rug out from under a normal size whitetail but never gave it thought on bigger game animals. 25 caliber is just not that big a hunk of lead to send downrange on a Large Bull Elk IMO. I guess the old saying Speed Kill's holds true in this case.
     
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  2. Strutter

    Strutter Cyber-Hunter

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    Watch this link. It shows a woman shoot a bull at 688 yards with a 243. I guess it worked but man that a small bullet at that range on a big animal.
     
  3. DH13

    DH13 12 pointer

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    Watched a many time out West a 243 killed many an Elk DEAD at 500 plus. It isn't the bullet size. It is shot placement.
     
  4. JDMiller

    JDMiller 12 pointer

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    Kentucky's minimum is .270 caliber..... but as mentioned....several states allow .243 as the minimum.

    Elk are some big boned critters and with the small calibers like 25-06 there's no room for error.

    I have no doubt a well placed 25-06 or 243 will do the job behind the shoulder.... but when you get talking 250yds+ range and throw in an excited hunter. I'm not so sure a more forward - direct contact with the shoulder would have a very good result.

    Which in my opinion if a person was so inclined to hunt with the smaller calibers or large ones for that matter..... a fair amount of thought would need to be spent on what bullet to use. Being I'd opt for an Accubond or Partition style bullet regardless of what caliber I was toting.

    But personally... elk sized critters ....I would opt for something in the .30 caliber range.
     
  5. Capttrae

    Capttrae 12 pointer

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    All about the shot placement
     
  6. Drahts

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    I know a guy out west that uses 243 for everything including moose. As Capt said it's all bout placement!
     
  7. DH13

    DH13 12 pointer

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    I would shoot a GRIZZLY BEAR with my 243. Wouldn't be scared at all. Killed Mule Deer White Tail Prong Horn and Elk with mine. 2nd Elk 5by5 was 567 yards. Hit the ground right where he stood.
     
  8. elkaholic

    elkaholic 12 pointer

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    Shot placement is everything, but if I ever draw an elk tag I will hunt it with my 300 win mag.
     
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  9. DH13

    DH13 12 pointer

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    If I ever get a draw and Ky wont let me use 243. I would use my 30.06 but with my 125 grain bullet reloads. WICKED
     
  10. Duster

    Duster 12 pointer

    What do you think of that 25-06 speed burner in a brush situation ? I passed on a B&C class whitetail at under 20 yards while hunting with mine. Shot would have to be made thru cedar tree branches to hit kill zone. That same cedar cost me two chances at that big boy over three days. Just couldn't pull that trigger not knowing where at speed that little bullet would go if it contact a branch. If I had been hunting with my 30-06 and 180 grain A-Frame I would have shot and not had a second thought. A one oz 12 ga slug would have been better even.
     
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  11. elkaholic

    elkaholic 12 pointer

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    Cut that tree down.
     
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  12. Capttrae

    Capttrae 12 pointer

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    There’s no such thing as a “brush gun” a bullet going that fast out of any modern gun that hits a branch or something will defelect and start to tumble changing the tragectory
     
  13. Meatstick

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    Tested this myself with a .270 short mag, a .35 Remington, .44 Magnum rifle, and a slug gun. Not a one would stay on course after shooting thru a few limbs. Usually even had keyholes
     
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  14. Chessie202

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    If I draw an elk tag I won't be able to shoot my .264 win mag and that gun means a lot to me. I will have to borrow my sons 300 I guess
     
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  15. trust me

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    I'd add that it's all about shot placement, and a premium bullet. A bullet made for Whitetails at 100 yards won't give you a good result on an elk that is twice as thick and heavy at 300+.
     
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