Creedmore cringe

CRFmxracer

12 pointer
Sep 9, 2010
3,823
louisville kentucky
Not quite sure why there’s so much hate for the 6.5 CM. I’ve got one in cheap Savage Axis. It shoots great, very mild recoil, and there’s usually not much trouble finding ammo. I’ve killed one deer with it and a friend’s son borrowed the rifle and killed his first buck with it. I think it’s an excellent deer caliber and although not legal for Kentucky Elk, lots of folks do use them for Elk in western states. Wouldn’t be my choice but others have success with it. Shoot what you like and have fun.
Nothings wrong with it but it’s no better than the cartridges that have been out for 50 years is all OP is saying
 

Bowmostofthetime86

6 pointer
Apr 16, 2019
425
Pendleton county
30.06 and .308 are the default deer rifle. Occasionally an old timer carries a .270. Other than that guys go big caliber. 7mm and .300+. 30.06 is plenty popular and there is a significant demand that is not being met. That’s alarming. Hell you can’t buy shotgun shells. You can’t buy .243. You can’t buy anything other than 9mm and .223 and .308. Why?
Those are the NATO cartridges. It’s military brass.
 

MuleDawg

Fawn
Mar 31, 2022
1
Oak Grove
I don't like change much, Especially fads.

I know the creedmore is a high performing round and very popular. But i loath even hearing it. Maybe its because calibers should be numbers not names .223 .270 .308 7mm, maybe because they had half the shelf full of it when i needed 30-06, or because i hear younger hunters act like other calibers cant even kill a deer. I dunno. Get off my lawn!
I get it, but change is here and it is the Creedmoor of the West!! 😂
 

Oldrook

6 pointer
Jul 19, 2020
316
Soky
I’ve helped track two deer shot with 6.5 cm. Deer shot around 100 to 120 yards. Couldn’t hardly find any blood on the ground. When we found both deer, the inside was devastated and full of blood. The Hunter is ex military guy that shoots a lot and had excellent bullet placement. Not sure of the ammo but seemed very odd to us. I’m sticking with my old school calibers.
 

Eclipse

Fawn
Oct 15, 2019
11
Michigan
Can anyone riddle me why .308 ammo is readily available and 30.06 is extinct?!? “Supply and demand” is not adding up.


Just to tie this in with the thread….you can buy 6.5 Creedmore by the tractor trailer load.
The 308 fits into an AR platform just like the creedmoor does. The 30.06, 270, 30.30 are still out there by the thousands and popular. The ammo is not as available as 308 and creedmoor. Not that it’s not available but selection is low. That is because ammo manufacturers focused on any caliber that would fit into an AR platform as first priority.
 

cedar ridge

6 pointer
Dec 3, 2015
245
South Central KY
Seriously. Dad used to carry a Remington semi auto 30 06. I haven't been around anyone carry one since. It's always 7mm, 25 06, 308, or 280.
I started my son on a 243 and he went to a 308. I haven't seen a 30 06 at camp in 20 years.
We sure live in different worlds. Most every hunter I know owns a 30 06. Many friends also have 308. I’ve seen a few 7mm over the years and one 25 06. As for 280, never laid eyes on either a gun in this caliber or ammo.
 

1wildcatfan

12 pointer
Jan 2, 2009
14,968
raised n Bullitt Co.
6.5 PRC is a totally different animal. No personal experience but hear it’s pretty bad ass. When I was considering a caliber for my next long range gun it was in the high rankings but I figured ammo would be a bitc to get So I think I’ve narrowed down to 300 wsm or 7m mag
Just based on ammo availability.....seen a lot of 7 mag, some 6.5 PRC (and seeing more frequent now), no 300 wsm on the shelves.
 

BikerTrash22

6 pointer
Nov 18, 2015
192
Rosine, Rineyville, Hudson
I own several 06, and when I hunt that’s what I carry. My logic when I was young was you could find that ammo in every mom and pop gas station 30/30 also! Hell, it was 9.99 a box everywhere. All of the other calibers was 15.99 or higher. They also offer it in a wide range of weights! I believe 55-220gr. They even made it managed recoil for the kiddos and women folk! Lol now I buy it when I see it for $30 🙄 a box! I want to be able to pass these guns down to my grandkids if we ever get any, and I want there to be enough ammo that they could kill a deer or whatever for their lifetimes. The social climate we live in who knows what will be available in the future. I know it’s not the salad days of old, but it just might be the salad days of new!
 

1wildcatfan

12 pointer
Jan 2, 2009
14,968
raised n Bullitt Co.
Nothings wrong with it but it’s no better than the cartridges that have been out for 50 years is all OP is saying
Exactly. Hornadys marketing machine made everyone think they had to have one cause it was someway better than what you had. And it's a clone to the 260 Remington thats been out many yrs but fallen by the way side. . Actually the 260 may shoot heavier bullets better and it was the darling of the long range community for quite a while. Bet there's only a handful on here that own a 260.
 

Fords4life

6 pointer
Nov 25, 2007
118
bullitt county
Can anyone riddle me why .308 ammo is readily available and 30.06 is extinct?!? “Supply and demand” is not adding up.


Just to tie this in with the thread….you can buy 6.5 Creedmore by the tractor trailer load.
NATO......9mm and 308 are NATO spec calibers. The ammo manufacturers will continue to produce that stuff until demand severely slows down.
 

1badDart

6 pointer
Oct 30, 2012
229
W. KY
I’ve helped track two deer shot with 6.5 cm. Deer shot around 100 to 120 yards. Couldn’t hardly find any blood on the ground. When we found both deer, the inside was devastated and full of blood. The Hunter is ex military guy that shoots a lot and had excellent bullet placement. Not sure of the ammo but seemed very odd to us. I’m sticking with my old school calibers.
If shot placement was good, it was poor bullet selection.


The 6.5 CM is a very good cartridge, no better at killing than any other capable cartridge though. The 6.5 CM was designed by Hornady as a long range target cartridge, it's designed to be efficient and take advantage of high BC .264 (6.5mm) bullets. For .264 shooters it has been a boon for bullets, without it there wouldn't be near as many choices in the caliber.

The 6.5 CM is ballistically twins to the 260 Remington that was introduced by Remington in 1997. Where Remington failed was marketing and barrel twist rate and bullet weight. The model 7 came with a 1-9 twist and the ammo they pushed for it used their 140 bullets. The 1-9 didn't shoot the heavier bullet well and the cartridge fell to the wayside for most folks that don't reload. Screw a 1-7 or a 1-8 barrel on a 260 and the 140 and heavier shoot great.

Where Remington failed Hornady excelled, solid engineering, great marketing and the fact it is a good cartridge led to popularity of the 6.5 man bun.

I have a model 70 in 30-06 that I bought in 1977. In December of 2011 I had shoulder surgery and could no longer take heavy recoil. No more 3 1/2" turkey gun, a 20 gauge took its place, wish I'd done that that years before. I also bought a Savage mdl 16 in 260 Remington and have only deer hunted once with the 30-06 since then.

The 6.5 CM is a great cartridge within it's limits, but it's not the proverbial magic bullet, it still takes the monkey behind the gun to do his job.
 

257Wmag

6 pointer
Oct 7, 2015
375
NC
6.5 PRC is a totally different animal. No personal experience but hear it’s pretty bad ass. When I was considering a caliber for my next long range gun it was in the high rankings but I figured ammo would be a bitc to get So I think I’ve narrowed down to 300 wsm or 7m mag
Exactly, I was seriously considering a 6.5 PRC when this ammo crisis started. A 6.5 you can shoot without needing a hair clip to keep your girly locks out of your face. Ammo is about impossible to find as is brass so even reloading isn’t really going to help. Woulda ended up with a very expensive club or paper weight.

Sold a 257 W mag a few years back cause ammo got too high, now it’s scarce as hens teeth.

Have a 308 and enough federal fusions to hunt until I’m older and grayer than I am now. Same with my 270. They both kill deer as dead as dead gets and continue to pick up ammo when I run across it.
 
Nov 11, 2010
82
Northern Kentucky
I own a Tikka Whitetail Hunter in 270 and 30/06. Superb rifles both! Also 30/30 lever by marlin. I was on a 3-year rotation just to get them all out in the field during deer gun season. Then about ten years ago, a tikka T3 in 25/06 seduced me, and after realizing it’s far and away THE most accurate rifle I’ve ever owned I have used it and only it since. With a Core-Lokt billet around 115 grains, I’ve never walked over 80 yards to retrieve my deer most just fall in their tracks. I had 3 rounds left this Fall and took 3 does. Now I cannot find, but there are stacks of 6.5 in many weights. For deer in Ky, give me the 25/06 with no felt recoil! Just my .02 ………
 


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