Dove Fields

Ezelkyhunter

10 pointer
Nov 28, 2013
1,429
Q. How long do you have to wait from spraying 24-d til you can no till sunflowers?

CAn you plant then spray same day thinking it will take 7 -10 days for them to sprout
 

keeruss8

8 pointer
Jun 19, 2016
518
Marrowbone
Q. How long do you have to wait from spraying 24-d til you can no till sunflowers?

CAn you plant then spray same day thinking it will take 7 -10 days for them to sprout
I believe your supposed to wait 20-21 days before you put anything in the ground behind it. Somebody here will give you a for sure answer
 

Rob7

6 pointer
Oct 18, 2004
404
About 1/3 of an acre of our field is eat up with weeds. Field is 5.8 acres. I ran out of preemergent (Spartan and Prowl) and it was in the part of the field where the Peredovik sunflowers were planted, not the Clearfield, so I could not spray with the lightning, only sprayed with the Clethodim. Amazing to see how weed infested it is. Rest of the field looks good, just need some more rain to keep them growing. Reinforces in my mind how important the chemical strategy is.

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keeruss8

8 pointer
Jun 19, 2016
518
Marrowbone
Th
About 1/3 of an acre of our field is eat up with weeds. Field is 5.8 acres. I ran out of preemergent (Spartan and Prowl) and it was in the part of the field where the Peredovik sunflowers were planted, not the Clearfield, so I could not spray with the lightning, only sprayed with the Clethodim. Amazing to see how weed infested it is. Rest of the field looks good, just need some more rain to keep them growing. Reinforces in my mind how important the chemical strategy is.

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That's a heck of a difference
 

hunt-4-life21

12 pointer
Sep 26, 2007
3,714
Butler Co.
About 1/3 of an acre of our field is eat up with weeds. Field is 5.8 acres. I ran out of preemergent (Spartan and Prowl) and it was in the part of the field where the Peredovik sunflowers were planted, not the Clearfield, so I could not spray with the lightning, only sprayed with the Clethodim. Amazing to see how weed infested it is. Rest of the field looks good, just need some more rain to keep them growing. Reinforces in my mind how important the chemical strategy is.

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My goodness. It looks like pigweed, maybe? If so, it'll get taller than the sunflowers. I know someone here (and maybe it was you Rob) talking about using a wick bar. If those get taller than the sunflowers, see if you can get a wick bar and 2-4d the heck out of them. Pig weed is something you don't want to mess with.
 

Rob7

6 pointer
Oct 18, 2004
404
My goodness. It looks like pigweed, maybe? If so, it'll get taller than the sunflowers. I know someone here (and maybe it was you Rob) talking about using a wick bar. If those get taller than the sunflowers, see if you can get a wick bar and 2-4d the heck out of them. Pig weed is something you don't want to mess with.
Thanks for the info, I never did purchase a wick bar but did ask about them either last year or year before, I did use a painters pole and roller cover and took care of a few problem areas last year with some round up, might have to get creative and figure out a way to get some round up on those unwanted plants without getting it on the sunflowers. Might take my 30" self propelled commercial yard mower and mow down what has grown so far, minus the sunflowers. If I had any cultivating equipment I could cultivate them like feedman suggested. I guess worst case scenario is that I just simply mow down that section of field and leave as bare ground. Sounds like I'll have fun experimenting. Thanks,
 

bigpuddin43

12 pointer
Feb 21, 2007
5,289
bucktown
Why don’t more people plant wheat? Some of the best hunts I’ve had was over wheat.
my best guess is you get a lot of thatch with wheat similar to millet which I used to do when we had hay equipment and could bail the thatch off to get more bare ground. also one rain on wheat and the majority is gonna sprout. best dove shoots we ever did were with browntop millet that was let go to seed then cut and bailed.
 

Rob7

6 pointer
Oct 18, 2004
404
my best guess is you get a lot of thatch with wheat similar to millet which I used to do when we had hay equipment and could bail the thatch off to get more bare ground. also one rain on wheat and the majority is gonna sprout. best dove shoots we ever did were with browntop millet that was let go to seed then cut and bailed.
I like to try and get 6 weekend hunts out of the field and believe the sunflowers give the longevity to do that. I never tried the wheat for the reason bp stated, my thoughts is that the seeds that hit the ground would sprout too soon, but I could be wrong. I did do half the field in millet one year however the black birds made quick work of it, coming down in flocks, laying it flat and munching it all gone.
 

Rob7

6 pointer
Oct 18, 2004
404
What a difference a week makes along with some rain finally, went from no yellow in the field over the 4th weekend to lots of yellow this past weekend. Second pictures shows the Clearfield on the left and the Peredovik on the right.
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