EV's vs Fossil Fuel Cars

[WildmanWilson]

We’ve beaten this dead horse before, but we can do it again. We hear people saying the grid has enough excess capacity already, and the naysayers telling us it does not. I guess we will find out soon enough.

One thing we know, as battery technology continues to improve, charging will need to occur less and less often. If your EV gets 400-500 or more miles, the average person driving to work each day might go a couple of weeks or more between charges, if not longer. So it’s not like everyone is charging all the time. Also, we know most people will (do already) charge at home, at night when demand on the grid is lowest. Some EVs are experimenting with solar panels in roof, dash, etc, to increase range between charges. Other technological advances will come.

And certainly over time the grid will be upgraded. More transmission lines, more wind, solar, hydro, etc., less reliance on fossil fuels, making EVs even more “clean”. The will can find a way.

An EV-explosion is coming. They will be the nicest automobiles we have ever driven, and over time their zero tailpipe emissions will help our environment. They aren’t the end all be all solution to the climate issue, but they are a significant step in the right direction.

So how do low income people afford these "nice automobiles." We know they can't afford new ones. The older ones will need new batteries at 20k+. Now they can go get a $1000 dollar car and go on about their lives. You got an answer for that I guess?

I read about a new environment issue with EVs. Due to their weight they will give off many more toxins from the tires wearing and releasing it into the air. Not only that but many parking garages will not be able to handle the extra weight. Some batteries are even using more iron so they don't need as much nickel and cobalt but they are even heavier.

I know you think this will be utopia but I wonder how many new issues arise we haven't even thought of?

 

[riverboss]

Women have been trying to replace men with battery's for yrs, now they want to replace women with men and men with women it's a loose screw in there heads that's morphed into dumb Democrat syndrome!
Or DDS for short!
They think they know what's best for everyone and will do anything to force it on you, it's called communism!

 

[EC]

How electric car propaganda preys on the disabled​

How electric car propaganda preys on the disabled

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[EC]

Report: ‘massive’ Tesla leak reveals data breaches, thousands of safety complaints​

Report: ‘massive’ Tesla leak reveals data breaches, thousands of safety complaints

Whistleblower files reveal customer and employee information plus complaints about driver assistance system

www.theguardian.com

 

[carnivore]

We’ve beaten this dead horse before, but we can do it again. We hear people saying the grid has enough excess capacity already, and the naysayers telling us it does not. I guess we will find out soon enough.

One thing we know, as battery technology continues to improve, charging will need to occur less and less often. If your EV gets 400-500 or more miles, the average person driving to work each day might go a couple of weeks or more between charges, if not longer. So it’s not like everyone is charging all the time. Also, we know most people will (do already) charge at home, at night when demand on the grid is lowest. Some EVs are experimenting with solar panels in roof, dash, etc, to increase range between charges. Other technological advances will come.

And certainly over time the grid will be upgraded. More transmission lines, more wind, solar, hydro, etc., less reliance on fossil fuels, making EVs even more “clean”. The will can find a way.

An EV-explosion is coming. They will be the nicest automobiles we have ever driven, and over time their zero tailpipe emissions will help our environment. They aren’t the end all be all solution to the climate issue, but they are a significant step in the right direction.

Rather than focusing on vehicles that are used 1-2 hours a day they should focus 100% of their efforts on commercial trucks that are used 50% of the day. Infrastructure can be concentrated and less spread out. Once tractor trailers prove the concept they should shift to passenger vehicles.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

Rather than focusing on vehicles that are used 1-2 hours a day they should focus 100% of their efforts on commercial trucks that are used 50% of the day. Infrastructure can be concentrated and less spread out. Once tractor trailers prove the concept they should shift to passenger vehicles.

Smaller autos are easier/quicker to convert to new technology/electric. Larger vehicles, tractors, etc will move away from fossil fuels in time. Some of it is already happening - schools, for example, are ordering electric buses. Some other countries are ahead of us in converting commercial vehicles.

 

[Zeb]

My opinion is pretty simple. EVs will be more widely adopted as the technology and infrastructure evolves to meet the needs of more people. It has to be a natural evolution. Wishful thinking, embellished range and performance specs and delusional mandates to force people simply won’t make it happen. They seem to be a fit for some now and the market will grow as improvements are made.

Innovation can be encouraged but progress has its own speed.

After spending millions, TARC's downtown Louisville electric bus fleet sits idle

Mechanics lack the needed tools and training to make repairs.

www.wdrb.com

 

[Zeb]

 

[WildmanWilson]

Rather than focusing on vehicles that are used 1-2 hours a day they should focus 100% of their efforts on commercial trucks that are used 50% of the day. Infrastructure can be concentrated and less spread out. Once tractor trailers prove the concept they should shift to passenger vehicles.

Big trucks need extremely heavy batteries to have any range. That means the payload would need to drop dramatically in order to stay within weight limits for the highway. Since they travel long ranges every day, they would need to have a long charge every day or night. I wonder how many chargers need to be put in at a truckstop to handle all of them?

 

[Regulator623]

Until they can figure out a way to electrify the roadways to power cars and trucks, EV's will only be a novelty.

 

[drakeshooter]

The gooberment needs to stay the hell out of the “free market” and worry only about the limited scope of authority granted them by We The People in the Constitution. That’s it. EVs will happen when they happen if and when the “free market“ says so or at least that’s how it was supposed to work.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

EVs are hardly a “novelty” - they are all over the roads already. EV numbers will explode over the next 5 years.

The government absolutely should be involved in promoting EVs as one tool for addressing climate change - a problem we must address immediately.

 

[barney]

Lmfao!^^^

 

[riverboss]

Someone needs to throw a bucket of water on gg and his boy friend there knotted again!

 

[Regulator623]

EVs are hardly a “novelty” - they are all over the roads already. EV numbers will explode over the next 5 years.

The government absolutely should be involved in promoting EVs as one tool for addressing climate change - a problem we must address immediately.

With my gas automobile, I can go from empty to full in about three minutes and be good for another 500 miles....until EV's can do that, they will never compete.