How much can you take before leaving a job?

Lady Hunter

12 pointer
Jan 12, 2009
5,343
Sometimes you just have to walk away. I walked away from two that started out good & then went to hell in a handbasket.

Started the first one as a part time $5/hour technical writer. It was a pretty cool job. I only worked about 20 hours a week & was only dealing with one product. Within 6 months though, the head writer had quit and I was the lead writer on all products & working full time managing another girl they'd hired after me. Still at $5/hour and no benefits. When that girl quit and they hired another under false-pretenses (told her she'd be a lead programmer & then left it to me to explain that she'd NEVER get to program as a writer), that did it for me and I walked away.... And it was a good move - I landed an 18 month contract with IBM after that, coordinating translations between the plant in Lexington and sixteen translations centers worldwide. LOVED that job & hated it when my contract ran out and corporate woudln't let them hire me on full time because I had the "wrong degree." It was probably for the best though because it wasn't long after that they closed the entire division where I would have been.

The other one I walked away from lasted 6 years. Sole technical writer for a small pharmaceutical software company. I wrote everything from newletters to user's guides to quick references to sales brochures. If it was printed from the company, it came from my desk. Challenging but a lot of fun! And the first 5 years or so were great. Good management, good work atmosphere, and good raises (and awesome company parties a couple of times each year). Then a partial owner sold us out to another partial owner... and it went down the tubes. The new parent company replaced the head of software development with a guy who's resume highlight was that he also worked as a paid underwear model. I wish that was a joke but it wasn't. He had no programming experience and was totally CLUELESS. We could all see the products we worked on going downhill but were powerless to stop it with him in charge. Raises kept being put on hold & false promises given. At the same time, I was dealing with daycare issues for my infant & finally I'd had enough... Wrote up my resignation on the spot & handed it to the dimwit as I walked out the door. Wasn't surprised when less than 6 months later, the parent company shut the whole thing down and transferred all of our products to another subsidiary. (Ironically, a couple of years later they tried to resurrect the main product & hired a bunch of us back as independent contractors to develop it under a Windows platform. That was a lot of fun & I made a buttload of money working part time from home while writing documentation and help text for it before corporate changed their mind once again & pulled the plug on the entire project.)

Whatever you do, make sure you can afford it financially. Either have enough saved to tied you thru until you find something better (or at least a better environment) or have something lined up before you go. Also make sure you have some way of obtaining health coverage while you're between jobs. And be aware that, as someone said up above, the grass isn't always greener & snakes don't always show their stripes until it's too late for you to run away. Good luck. Working in a toxic environment is rough.
 
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Luther's Feist

10 pointer
Oct 25, 2014
1,940
Coeburn, Va
Worked a job I absolutely hated for 17 years and put up with more than my share of BS. I would have quit long before I left had it not been for knowing others depended on me at the time. Had I been single I probably would have left in the first year. Was one of the better paying jobs here at the time other than going in a coal mine. I did get to work all the overtime I wanted plus several hours I didn't want. Some days I'd do jobs that weren't mine and the 1 boss I did like who was in a different section told me I needed to quit doing the work of 3 men that it wouldn't get me anywhere. I was promised a supervisor or team leader job that payed nearly double what I was already making and I did anything and everything I could to work my way to it. Nearly killed myself for that place and at the end of the day come to find out the 1 boss was right and it got me nowhere. Was just another number to the company. When I got sick and my wife left I got out of there and was working another job until I was just unable to work anymore.

Lot of factors come into play as far as leaving a job so it would be a very hard decisionto make. I can say if I had it to do over again I sure wouldn't have stayed as long as I did
 
When I was a retail manager I had employees who skated all day doing the bare minimum to keep their job while looking at their phones every chance they got and then I had employees who did their own work plus that of the skaters. When I’d ask corporate management for a raise for them they’d want to give them a quarter or maybe 50 cents at most. I had one exceptional employee once who was gonna quit if she didn’t get a nice raise that I went to bat for and when I asked for $2 an hour more the company President threw me a set of keys and asked incredulously “Why don’t you just give her the store?” You pay peanuts and you get monkeys for the most part but all they cared about was keeping payroll low enough that ownership would give them a bigger bonus.
 

257Wmag

6 pointer
Oct 7, 2015
417
NC
Find another job and drop the one that you’re not happy with. Very few companies give a frogs fat azz about their people anymore, only time they seem to take notice is when you turn in your notice. By then it’s too late.

Left a job last year where I was making a heck of a lot of money for a Start-up that ended up being a dumpster fire. Left there and now am in limbo on my feelings on this one. Been 9 months, was great but industry is slowing so management is being a turd and up out hind end. And they’re being stingy, time will tell.
 

Velvet ears

10 pointer
Nov 6, 2013
1,150
West KY
Sometimes you just have to walk away. I walked away from two that started out good & then went to hell in a handbasket.

Started the first one as a part time $5/hour technical writer. It was a pretty cool job. I only worked about 20 hours a week & was only dealing with one product. Within 6 months though, the head writer had quit and I was the lead writer on all products & working full time managing another girl they'd hired after me. Still at $5/hour and no benefits. When that girl quit and they hired another under false-pretenses (told her she'd be a lead programmer & then left it to me to explain that she'd NEVER get to program as a writer), that did it for me and I walked away.... And it was a good move - I landed an 18 month contract with IBM after that, coordinating translations between the plant in Lexington and sixteen translations centers worldwide. LOVED that job & hated it when my contract ran out and corporate woudln't let them hire me on full time because I had the "wrong degree." It was probably for the best though because it wasn't long after that they closed the entire division where I would have been.

The other one I walked away from lasted 6 years. Sole technical writer for a small pharmaceutical software company. I wrote everything from newletters to user's guides to quick references to sales brochures. If it was printed from the company, it came from my desk. Challenging but a lot of fun! And the first 5 years or so were great. Good management, good work atmosphere, and good raises (and awesome company parties a couple of times each year). Then a partial owner sold us out to another partial owner... and it went down the tubes. The new parent company replaced the head of software development with a guy who's resume highlight was that he also worked as a paid underwear model. I was that was a joke but it wasn't. He had no programming experience and was totally CLUELESS. We could all see the products we worked on going downhill but were powerless to stop it with him in charge. Raises kept being put on hold & false promises given. At the same time, I was dealing with daycare issues for my infant & finally I'd had enough... Wrote up my resignation on the spot & handed it to the dimwit as I walked out the door. Wasn't surprised when less than 6 months later, the parent company shut the whole thing down and transferred all of our products to another subsidiary. (Ironically, a couple of years later they tried to resurrect the main product & hired a bunch of us back as independent contractors to develop it under a Windows platform. That was a lot of fun & I made a buttload of money working part time from home while writing documentation and help text for it before corporate changed their mind once again & pulled the plug on the entire project.)

Whatever you do, make sure you can afford it financially. Either have enough saved to tied you thru until you find something better (or at least a better environment) or have something lined up before you go. Also make sure you have some way of obtaining health coverage while you're between jobs. And be aware that, as someone said up above, the grass isn't always greener & snakes don't always show their stripes until it's too late for you to run away. Good luck. Working in a toxic environment is rough.
Lady hunter got mad skills
 

ribsplitter

Cyber-Hunter
Jan 19, 2004
3,721
Greenup, ky, USA.
Easy answer to this question for me. The minute I get tired of it, I'm gone. I have absolutely no loyalty to a company and refuse to put up with any BS. I consider us business partners, not friends if or when they don't hold to their end it's done. In my business, it's a workers market with no change coming any time soon. Other occupations may not be able to find employment or replace their job as easily which could be a different situation. My last employer got two weeks notice mostly out of respect for clients. Pretty much every other employer I've worked for got two days ( I'm leaving too day).
 

Velvet ears

10 pointer
Nov 6, 2013
1,150
West KY
I worked for the same company for 18 years even relocated twice. I loved my job except the drive. Then I found a job by accident close to home and making $20k per year more. The insurance sucked though and only 2 weeks vacation. I worked there a year and my previous boss called one day and wanted me to come back. Keep in mind it’s 1:30 from home versus 30 minutes. Long story short, I went back, got another $20k raise, full family insurance paid for (great insurance), picked back up on my vacation as when I left, and get paid $60 per day for driving and I work from home 1-2 days per week. It cost them dearly to get me back to do the same thing I was doing.

Sometimes you have to leave for the boss (owner in my case) to realize how valuable you were.
 

xbokilla

12 pointer
Jun 28, 2012
15,669
I know it’s not like anything else job wise but the thing I see in education is it seems people hang on too long. I get maximizing retirement so you can have a “stress free” retirement but how much is enough? I’ve seen this “stay another year because if you can take what you make in that year and multiply it times 30 you’ll see that you are leaving a lot of money on the table”. How about life? You die during that extra year then none of it F’n mattered.
 

WildmanWilson

12 pointer
Dec 26, 2004
13,135
Western Ky.
Many of us were taught to just suck it up and go to work. Didn't matter if you like it or not. You have to provide for your family. Times are changing. Now it seems people don't want any job unless its perfect and they have all the freedom in the world.

I have about 4 1/2 years until I plan on retirement, and I am burn out from doing the same job for 29 years, but I make too good of pay in this job to just do something else at this short period. I am thankful for what I have but can't wait to be done with it. I've missed a lot from working swing and holidays and weekend, but I hope it put my family in a better place.
If someone hates their job and has something as good, they can jump to then it's worth a shot. It's a lot to weigh out and see what's best for each person.
 


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