How much can you take before leaving a job?

[Buzzy]

Many of us were taught to just suck it up and go to work. Didn't matter if you like it or not.

I'm glad or at least hope we aren't teaching this anymore. You have to work but not eat shit everyday for a tyrant or no pay.

 

[WildmanWilson]

I'm glad or at least hope we aren't teaching this anymore. You have to work but not eat shit everyday for a tyrant or no pay.

I'm not talking about being abused or paid slave wages. I mean we were taught to go to work and do it every day and put in a honest day. It was also called work ethic. Any time you work for someone else you probable aren't going to love everything about it.

I'm seeing younger folks continually drop out because its all not put on a silver plater and they don't get to work from home or no weekends or nights and want 4 weeks vacation out of the gate. They seem to inflate their self worth without really earning any of it. Everyone wants the best job they can get and that means moving to something else at times. I would not want anyone to just totally hate a job and stay their miserable all their life. Just don't expect it all to be sunshine all the time either.

 

[Buzzy]

I'm not talking about being abused or paid slave wages. I mean we were taught to go to work and do it every day and put in a honest day. It was also called work ethic. Any time you work for someone else you probable aren't going to love everything about it.

I'm seeing younger folks continually drop out because its all not put on a silver plater and they don't get to work from home or no weekends or nights and want 4 weeks vacation out of the gate. They seem to inflate their self worth without really earning any of it. Everyone wants the best job they can get and that means moving to something else at times. I would not want anyone to just totally hate a job and stay their miserable all their life. Just don't expect it all to be sunshine all the time either.

You're talkin out both sides of your mouth.

 

[KY_Fried]

Wish I would have told my employer to pound salt years ago. I have too much time invested and am too close to retirement to tap out now. Not a fun place to be in.

 

[Buzzy]

Wish I would have told my employer to pound salt years ago. I have too much time invested and am too close to retirement to tap out now. Not a fun place to be in.

Lots of people believe hard works pays off with employers.

 

[WildmanWilson]

You're talkin out both sides of your mouth.

How so? I never said a person shouldn’t look for another job if they are treated like garbage. I said a lot of the older generation went to work because it was our duty to provide for our families and worked jobs we may have hated.

My first job sucked because I would go months without a day off. I had no life but I had a new family and I knew it was my responsibility. I worked that job 12 years. Then my present job was new in town and it looked like a better opportunity for more money and some actual days off. I was fortunate that I got it.

The newer generations only care about there time off and if they can still have their fun on weekends. They don’t think about the future or saving money or anything beyond today. We and most everyone are having terrible a time getting workers. This is a new phenomenon for the most part. Older generations had a better work ethic and loyalty

 

[Tankt]

Loyalty is a two way street.

And it's doesn't exist in the business world anymore. They pay you for your efforts. You don't produce, you are fired. It is a business contract, nothing more. I have no idea why people comment "people nowadays have no loyalty to their company" as a reason for staying. You got one life to live. If you aren't happy in your job, why wouldn't you look elsewhere?

 

[AndySchulte]

I know it’s not like anything else job wise but the thing I see in education is it seems people hang on too long. I get maximizing retirement so you can have a “stress free” retirement but how much is enough? I’ve seen this “stay another year because if you can take what you make in that year and multiply it times 30 you’ll see that you are leaving a lot of money on the table”. How about life? You die during that extra year then none of it F’n mattered.

I’m a teacher too. My brother asked me not too long ago if I think I’ll still enjoy teaching when I’m 65… I was like dude, there’s no way in hell I’m going to still be teaching at 65 😂

 

[Buzzy]

How so? I never said a person shouldn’t look for another job if they are treated like garbage. I said a lot of the older generation went to work because it was our duty to provide for our families and worked jobs we may have hated.

My first job sucked because I would go months without a day off. I had no life but I had a new family and I knew it was my responsibility. I worked that job 12 years. Then my present job was new in town and it looked like a better opportunity for more money and some actual days off. I was fortunate that I got it.

The newer generations only care about there time off and if they can still have their fun on weekends. They don’t think about the future or saving money or anything beyond today. We and most everyone are having terrible a time getting workers. This is a new phenomenon for the most part. Older generations had a better work ethic and loyalty

You see it that way, I see it as the older generation had no backbone. There have always been better jobs and you didn’t ever have to stay at one because of your “duty”. Loyalty is like talk with employers, it’s cheap.

If you want good workers, pay up. It’s that simple.

 

[aaronc]

And it's doesn't exist in the business world anymore. They pay you for your efforts. You don't produce, you are fired. It is a business contract, nothing more. I have no idea why people comment "people nowadays have no loyalty to their company" as a reason for staying. You got one life to live. If you aren't happy in your job, why wouldn't you look elsewhere?

Facts.

 

[woodsman92]

Jobs I’ve left I always gave a 2 week notice, but don’t blame anyone who don’t. They want you to give them a notice so they can prepare for your leaving, but yet if they fire you then you get no notice, no time to prepare for being unemployed or finding another job.
And that’s just the thing, a lot of people devot their lives to a job where they wouldn’t cry if you died tomorrow and have your replacement the next day.

 

[Fur Feather]

Loyalty my ass. I left Vo Tech early to go work at a place. Sole owner turned it into an ESOP when he retired. I was VP with 1 guy above me. I work there 36 years and he laid me off in the last 15 minutes of the work day. Blind sided. Took me 1.5 years to find a decent job. That was probably the start of my divorce. Put us in a bad spot.

 

[KYBOY]

The way I look at it...
I worked hard where hard work was rewarded
I gave loyalty where loyalty was given
I learned the hard way that you are a *number* to them, pure and simple and the second you stop being profitable,even if its no fault of your own, they will put the boot to you...
Sad but true, so I was the same way with them..Working for several levels of govt just reinforced that belief.. Though I will say the federal govt was by far and away the best job I ever had and I was treated the best there by far..

 

[WildmanWilson]

You see it that way, I see it as the older generation had no backbone. There have always been better jobs and you didn’t ever have to stay at one because of your “duty”. Loyalty is like talk with employers, it’s cheap.

If you want good workers, pay up. It’s that simple.

Here’s what I see. We used to hire 10 people and get 7-8 good workers. Now we hire 10 and we are lucky to get 2. Most quit or get fired. We had to adjust the attendance policy to be more lenient in their probation period because most cannot get to work on time or at all.

Pay? We pay better than most any job you will find around here. If you stay long enough to learn you can work your way up to very good money. They cannot see the big picture though. They all think they are worth top pay without putting in the effort and shouldn’t be expected to actually get to work every day.

McDonald’s people want 15+ and hour and cannot even put a burger in a sack without getting the order wrong half the time.

Pay isn’t the issue as much as how entitled and lazy they are now. You will see pay go up to get workers but the workers you get are still worthless in many cases. They just hop to the next job and continue to be worthless. They don’t care about their retirement or seeing their skills grow and continue getting higher pay with a company. They can’t think past today because they are now conditioned to think they are special. It’s why manufacturing is in trouble in the very near future as all the older generations retire. Saying older generations didn’t have a backbone is ridiculous. I’d take them any day over what we have now.

 

[Tankt]

The cure to lazy workers is momma and daddy kicking them out and the government doesn't take care of them either. A growling stomach is good motivation