Most Mines are Lost!

carnivore

12 pointer
Nov 17, 2007
11,516
Ky
Most of the horses are “claimed”. This has been tried and it never ends well.
I heard a story about KDFWR hiring someone to clear out the horses on a property and it resulted in 17 elk being shot and piled up. Not sure about the accuracy of that story but… sounds about right.
 

CalebConn16

8 pointer
May 27, 2016
680
Hard to imagine "wild cattle" among deer hunters. If they're sure enough feral, I'd give em hell over a sawbriar fed whitetail
Little of both honestly. They are some that are surely feral by this point but also massive herds that people “tend” but they literally can go wherever they want. Most have no idea how many or where they are at any given time. But they sure bitch when one ends up dead. Even though 3 herds by 3 different people are there.
 

Dark Cloud

12 pointer
Aug 14, 2009
5,691
Lawrence Co.
The land owners should have put it in contract ,to survey and fence the land ,when it goes back to the land owner.Theres people that owns land that don’t have a clue ,where the lines are ,with no fences people think its free range,so everybody uses it.They say it’s worse now than it use to be,I talked to one person who said they ,used their cemetery to herd a bunch of horses ,and cattle to try sort them out ,destroyed it ,knocked grave stones over ,tore fence up .
 

RLWEBB

12 pointer
Nov 30, 2005
10,397
Staffordsville, KY
Some of the cattle are “owned” but just wonder and some aren’t actually owned by anyone. This is a big problem that needs addressing. Be a good way to earn some fun money by rounding a bunch up and selling them.
 

NOCAMST

8 pointer
Oct 9, 2017
599
Central ky
Some of the cattle are “owned” but just wonder and some aren’t actually owned by anyone. This is a big problem that needs addressing. Be a good way to earn some fun money by rounding a bunch up and selling them.
Wouldn’t be hard nowadays. I got a dart gun that wouldn’t take long to pile them up lol
 

EdLongshanks

12 pointer
Nov 16, 2013
19,833
Northern Kentucky
It’s just a symptom of the bigger problem which is most folks don’t give $.02 about landowner rights, private property, etc.
I think the issue is that the land owner is perfectly fine with allowing cattle and horses to graze the property but hunters object to it because it affects their perceived right to hunt property that is not theirs.
 

ManofManyStangs

8 pointer
May 4, 2009
752
2 days and opened up a huge shooting lane 1 more days work and we should have the fight won this year.
 

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Regulator623

12 pointer
Nov 16, 2006
3,724
Eastern Kentucky
At one time, autumn olive was recommended as a wildlife enhancement planting for mine lands...same as the serica lespedeza. That was before they figured out how invasion they were. Now both are forbidden, but too late.
 

Drahts

12 pointer
Apr 7, 2015
6,347
KY
I was told, they told the grouse assoc, that it was great grouse habitat. They disagreed but F&W put it in anyhow. I haven't seen anything eat the berries. On my place I put the tractor bucket in the base of the bush and angle down and shove and lift. They don't come back or haven't so far. Guy who owned this place before me was told by F&W to put in Catawba bush/trees. Again another good for nothing plant that is a pain in the ass. It grows angling into any open road you have and you have to cut it out every year. Or it will grow the road shut. State could have great habitat on those mine grounds if they shut down all the UTV riding on em and go in there and eradicate the olive and the lespedeza and put in warm season grasses and switchgrass and some productive mast trees and pine forest.
 

mudhole crossing

12 pointer
Aug 20, 2007
8,568
East ky
Lots of animals utilize autumn olive berries, but when they get thick they are horrible. And I read somewhere they are terrible for allergies. Saying their pollen will carry for miles.
 

mudhole crossing

12 pointer
Aug 20, 2007
8,568
East ky
I was told, they told the grouse assoc, that it was great grouse habitat. They disagreed but F&W put it in anyhow. I haven't seen anything eat the berries. On my place I put the tractor bucket in the base of the bush and angle down and shove and lift. They don't come back or haven't so far. Guy who owned this place before me was told by F&W to put in Catawba bush/trees. Again another good for nothing plant that is a pain in the ass. It grows angling into any open road you have and you have to cut it out every year. Or it will grow the road shut. State could have great habitat on those mine grounds if they shut down all the UTV riding on em and go in there and eradicate the olive and the lespedeza and put in warm season grasses and switchgrass and some productive mast trees and pine forest.
Deer and coon love them
 


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