flyingnectar
6 pointer
Dogs running the woods are predators and predator season is open year round.
You do realize, you are a predator to.Dogs running the woods are predators and predator season is open year round.
22 magnum birdshot at about 30 feet, no permanent damage and they won't be back. don't ask me how I know.I have no problem stinging one with a bb gun but wouldn't use a rifle on one for permanent damage. Deer hunting isn't worth causing someone else heartbreak over their dog.
SSSWe saw less than 25% of the deer we normally see, at what used to be my best spot. People that bought the place next door now have two dogs that run loose. They got a heeler and some kind of mixed breed in early Summer. I get pics of them every single day, on both cams in the little woods that borders them. It's a natural funnel/bottle neck. My top 3 bucks have only been on camera in that woods this year, and since mid September, not a single daylight pic of any of them. For that matter, I've only had one daylight pic of any deer in the last 3 weeks. They come in an hour or so after dark, and leave well before daylight. Damn dogs. What is the best way to approach them about their dogs? They deer hunt on their 65 acres, so I can't imagine they've not experienced reduced sightings as well. I'm a dog lover, so no way I'm going to hurt their dogs. But I'm also not going to put up with them messing up my deer hunting again next year.
LOL...and the people in the Northern cities are some of the most anti hunting people you will find. Buddy of mine has a new neighbor from California and all of a sudden the public boat launch is "on his property" and he comes running down to make a scene and if they see hunters across the way, not on their land, they do whatever they can to ruin the hunt, chase away the game and make all kinds of noise. Have a tree hugger from Michigan who says that I am not allowed to shoot "his" geese/ducks...even if they are not on "his" Land. He thinks if they spend a lot of time on his land, and the dipshit feeds them, they belong to him. While it is good to get to know your neighbors, I would sit with fingers crossed that the house sells to a local, like-minded family that knows the time and effort put into hunting and would be open to solving the problem without creating a huge problem.That price sounds very reasonable to me....People in the northern cities are desperate to get out.
I didn't read the 5 pages of this thread but Kudo's to you for not taking the wussy way out by hurting their dogs. Dogs have a mind like a young autistic child IMHO. Pure & simple in how they think and they have no idea they are doing anything wrong. Deal directly with the real problem. Just tell the new neighbors how it's screwing up your hunting and that you are getting pics of their dogs every day. If they ignore the problem & it happens again go back & tell them next time you will start calling the cops and sue them for damages like the money wasted for things like food plots, property taxes, etc because their dogs ruined your hunting. Not to mention your time & a whole year that you can never get back. Then have the cops talk to them next time it happens. Then if it happens after talking to the cops serve them papers. Once you start don't accept excuses. See it through or it will keep happening & you will getting excuses. It sounds extreme, but do this & you will likely never have a problem with dogs again, trespassing or anything else. It's a shame, but sometimes you have to be a prick to people that don't take you seriously & refuse to show you respect. I have talked to several people over the past 30+ years that have legally went after disrespectful people like this & it has always worked. People may have thought the land owner was a prick but the landowner never had a problem again & had great hunting. Make them take you seriously & they may not like you but they will respect you.We saw less than 25% of the deer we normally see, at what used to be my best spot. People that bought the place next door now have two dogs that run loose. They got a heeler and some kind of mixed breed in early Summer. I get pics of them every single day, on both cams in the little woods that borders them. It's a natural funnel/bottle neck. My top 3 bucks have only been on camera in that woods this year, and since mid September, not a single daylight pic of any of them. For that matter, I've only had one daylight pic of any deer in the last 3 weeks. They come in an hour or so after dark, and leave well before daylight. Damn dogs. What is the best way to approach them about their dogs? They deer hunt on their 65 acres, so I can't imagine they've not experienced reduced sightings as well. I'm a dog lover, so no way I'm going to hurt their dogs. But I'm also not going to put up with them messing up my deer hunting again next year.
I won’t go to that extreme. Don’t want to cause a rift between them and in-laws. They’re their closest neighbors. In laws in mid 80’s. Never know when they may need their help.I didn't read the 5 pages of this thread but Kudo's to you for not taking the wussy way out by hurting their dogs. Dogs have a mind like a young autistic child IMHO. Pure & simple in how they think and they have no idea they are doing anything wrong. Deal directly with the real problem. Just tell the new neighbors how it's screwing up your hunting and that you are getting pics of their dogs every day. If they ignore the problem & it happens again go back & tell them next time you will start calling the cops and sue them for damages like the money wasted for things like food plots, property taxes, etc because their dogs ruined your hunting. Not to mention your time & a whole year that you can never get back. Then have the cops talk to them next time it happens. Then if it happens after talking to the cops serve them papers. Once you start don't accept excuses. See it through or it will keep happening & you will getting excuses. It sounds extreme, but do this & you will likely never have a problem with dogs again, trespassing or anything else. It's a shame, but sometimes you have to be a prick to people that don't take you seriously & refuse to show you respect. I have talked to several people over the past 30+ years that have legally went after disrespectful people like this & it has always worked. People may have thought the land owner was a prick but the landowner never had a problem again & had great hunting. Make them take you seriously & they may not like you but they will respect you.
Sounds to me like you're screwed.I won’t go to that extreme. Don’t want to cause a rift between them and in-laws. They’re their closest neighbors. In laws in mid 80’s. Never know when they may need their help.
How am I screwed when I haven’t even spoken with them?Sounds to me like you're screwed.
Learn to love it or move on.
You've already done better than I would have.
Congratulations.
Maybe cuddle and pet and rub a deer runnin dawg to help you feel better about it, maybe...
We saw less than 25% of the deer we normally see, at what used to be my best spotHow am I screwed when I haven’t even spoken with them?