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Trump maintains commanding lead in primary poll with 55 percent support… DeSantis at 29 percent… Nikki Haley at 3 percent…

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Aug 22, 2006
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You can't get there from here.
Yet, I never see you blame the system that was stacked against him and the non stop attacks he faced. Much of the things he was reported to have said was manipulated or flat out made up. And guess what? It’s working with low formation voters. Instead of just blaming him, why not point out why so many want him out of the picture at all cost. The weak and lazy simply believe what they hear without any investigation or they just want it to be true.

What good does that do? What good has it ever done?
It's the same system everyone else has to maneuver. I'm saying he sucks at it. DeSantis has already proven he's much better at it. Why not back a candidate that has a chance?
 

WildmanWilson

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Dec 26, 2004
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Western Ky.
Wow? What good does it do? We are seeing massive corruption in all our agencies and media all you say is so what. Trump wasn’t part of the system. That’s why he was attacked. Everyone else was part of that corruption.

Trump exposed it but it’s up to us to change it. DeSantis is one man and will have the same issue unless he just turns out to be one of them.
 

JR in KY

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Jan 25, 2006
6,722
The Occupied South
There's a lot of voters out there that voted for him twice who will not vote for him again.
And some who voted for him 2 Times already, and would Vote for Trump the 3rd time. If I am alive I will vote FOR Him, but for the previous stated reasons, I don't think he will ever serve as POTUS again.
Too much TDS, and the Media is a bunch of Rabid Dogs or Rabid Rats to be more exact.
America has changed, with the Older folks dying off and the college indoctrinated idiots being added to the Rat Voters.
 

120+

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Aug 22, 2006
19,721
You can't get there from here.
And some who voted for him 2 Times already, and would Vote for Trump the 3rd time. If I am alive I will vote FOR Him, but for the previous stated reasons, I don't think he will ever serve as POTUS again.
Too much TDS, and the Media is a bunch of Rabid Dogs or Rabid Rats to be more exact.
America has changed, with the Older folks dying off and the college indoctrinated idiots being added to the Rat Voters.
And Trump saying stupid stuff.
Had he any sense he would have cruised with the way the economy was doing. No, he had to get on Twitter like a teenager and say negative things about people for no reason.
His narcist personality shined through more and more and he won't recover from it. The needle has moved too much.
 

barney

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Oct 11, 2005
19,019
Wow? What good does it do? We are seeing massive corruption in all our agencies and media all you say is so what. Trump wasn’t part of the system. That’s why he was attacked. Everyone else was part of that corruption.

Trump exposed it but it’s up to us to change it. DeSantis is one man and will have the same issue unless he just turns out to be one of them.
Trump was talking about it not long ago.
 
And Trump saying stupid stuff.
Had he any sense he would have cruised with the way the economy was doing. No, he had to get on Twitter like a teenager and say negative things about people for no reason.
His narcist personality shined through more and more and he won't recover from it. The needle has moved too much.
As much as I hate to agree with you lol, I do. Rolling with economic success wasn’t good enough, had to run that mouth when it didn’t need running. There is no sense in intentionally alienating and insulting segments of the population. It generally ends up exactly like it did for Matt Bevin and consequently the entire country.
 

120+

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Aug 22, 2006
19,721
You can't get there from here.
As much as I hate to agree with you lol, I do. Rolling with economic success wasn’t good enough, had to run that mouth when it didn’t need running. There is no sense in intentionally alienating and insulting segments of the population. It generally ends up exactly like it did for Matt Bevin and consequently the entire country.
Even though he didn't have the "Hillary hate" factor going for him in the second election I thought he would cruise(anyone would cruise) against Biden but he pissed off way too many people with comments like the one's made when McCain died and Colin Powell. The middle group who decides the election will never vote him in again.
 

120+

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Aug 22, 2006
19,721
You can't get there from here.
Wow? What good does it do? We are seeing massive corruption in all our agencies and media all you say is so what. Trump wasn’t part of the system. That’s why he was attacked. Everyone else was part of that corruption.

Trump exposed it but it’s up to us to change it. DeSantis is one man and will have the same issue unless he just turns out to be one of them.
That's correct. If you think getting on a message board and complaining about "the system" has made one ounce of difference then you'll have to explain it to me.
DeSantis will not have the same issues as Trump. He doesn't say stupid stuff.
 
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aaronc

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Jul 21, 2009
4,089
At the workbench, Kentucky
And some who voted for him 2 Times already, and would Vote for Trump the 3rd time. If I am alive I will vote FOR Him, but for the previous stated reasons, I don't think he will ever serve as POTUS again.
Too much TDS, and the Media is a bunch of Rabid Dogs or Rabid Rats to be more exact.
America has changed, with the Older folks dying off and the college indoctrinated idiots being added to the Rat Voters.

Don't disagree....and for all that as far as I'm concerned this country (the large number of hurt feelings crowd) deserves everything it gets.
 

slobear

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Nov 20, 2014
6,356
Trump town, USA
Donald Trump received far more votes than any president in history. He will get even more in 24. It doesn’t make sense to argue the he can’t get the votes angle.
 

120+

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Aug 22, 2006
19,721
You can't get there from here.
That’s where we disagree, ballot harvesting coupled straight up fraud is why he lost, but his personality caused it. It’s a big deal stealing an election, they pulled out all the stops to assure he didn’t see another term.
So you're saying we had a sitting Republican president and a Republican senate yet we still could not prove or do anything about ballot harvesting? Does that mean demorats are smarter than republicans?
Lets say that did happen. Trump made it easier on them because they needed way fewer fake ballots than they should have.
A good economy running against Biden should have been a 60% victory for anyone.
 

aaronc

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Jul 21, 2009
4,089
At the workbench, Kentucky
So you're saying we had a sitting Republican president and a Republican senate yet we still could not prove or do anything about ballot harvesting? Does that mean demorats are smarter than republicans?
Lets say that did happen. Trump made it easier on them because they needed way fewer fake ballots than they should have.
A good economy running against Biden should have been a 60% victory for anyone.


Yes, yes that is exactly what that means. Democrats are and have for a long time been better at being Democrats than Republicans are at being Republicans. Republicans are more counterfeit x10. Democrats are almost always true to their socialist beliefs.
 


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